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Cursed By A Classical Education

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11/24/2004

Stalin Tried this Too....

Has anyone heard about what's going on in what I'll have to assume is Cupertino, California???

Check out this link....and then come back for a spell....I think I just might have an opinion on this. Anyone surprised at that?

School Bars Declaration Of Independence

At the risk of all my Google AdSense advertisements going back to hawking religious paraphenalia (not that there's anything wrong with any of it at all) I guess that we have to go back to the issue of religion just one more time.

There is NOTHING in the Constitution that specifically speaks to the issue of separation of church and state. In our previous discourse about the Muslim instruction/orientation/whatever you may call it...I think that we agreed that in the study of humanity...we need to address religions. But I also seem to think that I predicted this sort of rash, one-sided, heavy handed kind of action.

The teacher in question is a history instructor!!! He teaches about what happened. Not what we would have liked to have happened. Not make up things that are more in line with what today's "modern" educators would like to see taught...he is supposed to teach the kids about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and the other dead white guys that founded this country. Those same heros just happened to be devout Christians that wove quite a bit of reference to the Almighty into the foundation documents that this nation was built on. Just because the word "God" seems to strike fear into liberals like holy water to a vampire...doesn't mean that you can simply take these phrases out of history's curriculum.

There have been countries that have tried to re-write their histories....the former Soviet Union comes to mind. My college Russian professor served as the deputy Army attache in Moscow under Nixon. He told us stories about going into Russian libraries and pulling the volumes of the encyclopedia off the shelves and looking for the "changed pages." This is where a former citizen of note became a non-person....their entry being replaced with some other person or entry. Just like in the book 1984 they would simply paste a revision right over your entry.

Are we headed down that path again? And is it Mr. Bush...who's been called everything lately except a Christian by the left that's leading the charge?

No, it's the politically correct, over zealous academics (or alleged academics) trying to protect children from even the utterance of the word "God."

Folks...there are many worse words floating around the hallways of our public AND private schools these days. "God, help me pass this exam....or God let me get into UT at Austin" seem to come to mind. As long as the word "God" isn't followed by the word "damn it" I don't seem to have a problem with it.

Okay...now that you've had some time to digest this contribution from "The Smoking Gun" and what I had to say.... what do you think?

Read the rest of the longer story!

6 Comments:

At 10:44 PM, Blogger Jim said...

Now I have to agree with you about this teacher banning historical records because they have God listed in them. That's fanaticism.
I didn't know that the Constitution didn't bar church and State overlapping. But, if they should overlap- who's God should be looked to in setting policy which will be enforced to all? There will never be any agreement on this, there are simply too many belief systems contradicting each other here.
Jimmy Carter doesn't run from the G word, nor do many other "liberals".
I do, because I see organized relgion as having outgrown it's purpose. In early times it was needed for social cohesiveness and management. Some people really did need to think they would burn for all eternity if they murdered or raped. Now the ancient superstitions just grate against each other causing problem after problem.
I do believe there is a God, but I have never seen any evidence that He is involved in our day to day lives. I have seen no evidence that He favors one Dogma over another. I am sure there is a need in the human psyche for God, but as to Him or His nature all is speculation...aka "faith".
I really don't want someone's faith being litigated into law.
God has never once bother me, but His "followers" have!
Not all of them, many are kind and fair.

 
At 9:45 AM, Blogger the urban fox said...

Ah, Karl Rove knows exactly what he's doing. You've got to hand it to him, he's a world class media player. This story comes out late on Wednesday, with no chance of proper examination until Monday at the earliest, by which time the irrelevant church/state argument will have embedded itself securely in Americans' thoughts.

It's not a conspiracy theory to suggest there is always more to news stories than meets the eye. It'd be an insult to the organisations issuing the news release to suggest they haven't spun the story to a preferred angle. That's the name of the game, believe me.

From a large number of reports I've read or heard, the American administration has been quietly suppressing the Declaration of Independence for a while now.

Why would they do that? Well, it has nothing to do with those minor, ceremonial, unobtrusive mentions of religion in the text.

Have a read of the original document and see why Bush's team might not want this analysed too closely in an educational context.

How about because so many of the the grievances given against the British as a reason for declaring independence are all accusations which are being levelled at Bush by the rest of the world?

Take a look at:

"He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us"
or:

"He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation."Through 21st century eyes, this document is still an important and edifying text. The values of freedom and fairness it espoused embody everything the great nation of America is supposed to stand for. No wonder Bush wants to bury it.

 
At 9:52 AM, Blogger Jenni said...

Hi Major:

As someone who is on "the left" and who actually planned to be a social studies teacher at one point, let me first say that I agree that keeping historic documents out of our classrooms because they contain the word "God" or other religious concepts is just plain silly. It's a fact that our founders were religious, and trying to avoid historic references to that fact would hurt your ability to understand the full scope of American history.

Now for what I disagree with...I am moderately annoyed with your characterization that this type of ban is what "the left" and "the politically correct, over zealous academics (or alleged academics)" are in favor of. Sure, there are obviously few people out there that are trying to get it banned, since it happened. But from my experience with "the left" (which is a decent amount as I used to work in a state Senate office), the majority of liberals are fine with references to religion. It's when schools try to indoctrinate students into certain religious beliefs that we raise our opposition. For example, reading the Declaration of Independence in class would be acceptable. Saying "The founders believed in God, so you should to" and using the Declaration to support that statement is questionable in a public school setting (but doesn't warrant removing the Declaration from the classroom, just preventing its use in this type of situation).

Maybe you already realize this and your generalization was unintended, I don't know. But I think it's important that we realize that there are people who are way out there on either end of the political spectrum. Therefore, it's important that both sides of the aisle refrain from characterizing those extreme minority beliefs, rulings, or what have you as the agenda of "the left" or "the right."

 
At 5:02 PM, Blogger Joe said...

An excerpt from the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

This clause, which is the very first clause of the very first amendment to the Constitution, was described by Thomas Jefferson, the principle writer of said document, to be "a wall of separation between church and state." If that does not specifically speak to the issue of separation of church and state, I don't know what does.

Anyway, I agree that it is absurd for the study of history to exclude the study of religion in the context of its historical significance.

 
At 11:04 PM, Blogger Joe said...

Excuse me, Jefferson would have been the principal writer of the Constitution, not the principle writer, although I'm sure he crafted many of the principles too. Sigh, back to grammar school for me.

 
At 11:17 PM, Blogger Joe said...

Alright, I guess I was a bit tardy in mentioning that, but I wasn't able to get online much over Thanksgiving (if you must know, I was watching movies with my cousins and gorging myself), but I'd be much obliged if a certain factual inadequacy could be sorted out. *Ahem*

 

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